Episode Archive

35 episodes of We Don't Talk About That with Lucas Land since the first episode, which aired on September 1st, 2019.

  • 035: The Change Code with Monica Bourgeau

    June 29th, 2020  |  53 mins 34 secs

    In this episode I talk to Monica Bourgeau about her book The Change Code, how we can get past our polarization, and become agents for positive change.

  • 034: Can We Say Lynching? with Musiki Glover Part 2

    June 15th, 2020  |  44 mins 46 secs

    Part 2 of my conversation with my friend Musiki Glover about race, racism, using the word lynching, and her experience growing up as a black woman. Just a heads up since I know there are listeners who listen with their kids, there are a couple expletives dropped in the conversation. Not a lot, but kids notice everything!

  • 033: Can We Say Lynching? with Musiki Glover Part 1

    June 8th, 2020  |  45 mins 27 secs

    In this episode I talk to my friend Musiki Glover about race, racism, using the word lynching, and her experience growing up as a black woman. Just a heads up since I know there are listeners who listen with their kids, there are a couple expletives dropped in the conversation. Not a lot, but kids notice everything!

  • 032: Practice Makes Better with Gary Goodson

    May 25th, 2020  |  57 mins 21 secs

    In this episode we try something a bit different! I’m calling it Practice Makes Better. Today my friend Gary Goodson helps me with an experiment in practicing what we’re preaching. We have a discussion about whether science and faith are compatible and then reflect on how we did trying to have a hard conversation! I hope to make this a regular contribution to the podcast to help demonstrate and reflect on real live difficult conversations!

  • 031: Spiral Dynamics with Steve McDonald Part 2

    May 11th, 2020  |  44 mins 7 secs

    This is part two of my conversation with Steve Mcdonald about Spiral Dynamics. In this episode we make the leap from Tier 1 to Tier 2 and talk about what the heck that means. If you haven’t listened to part 1 yet, you might want to listen to it first since we are picking up where we left off last week.

  • 030: Spiral Dynamics with Steve McDonald Part 1

    April 27th, 2020  |  37 mins 48 secs

    In this two part interview I talk to futurist Steve McDonald about Spiral Dynamics, which is a model for understanding human development and consciousness. It’s a fascinating conversation that I think can help us understand ourselves and other people so much better. There’s a lot of information to digest. So sharing this in two parts will hopefully help your digestion and not give you information heartburn.

  • 029: Fake News with The News Literacy Project

    April 12th, 2020  |  35 mins

    In this episode I talk to Suzannah Gonzales of The News Literacy Project about why there's so much misinformation, what w can do about it, and how her organization can help!
    Guest Plugs

    The News Literacy Project – https://newslit.org/
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  • 028: Cross-Cultural Life and Love with Sharyl Loeung

    March 29th, 2020  |  1 hr 4 mins

    Well, when I recorded this interview with my friend Sharyl we lived in a very different world. We weren’t thinking about global pandemics, social distancing, or using zoom quite as much as we are now. Many of us are sheltering in place and facing...

  • 027: Encountering Silence with Carl McColman Part 2

    March 15th, 2020  |  40 mins 42 secs

    In part 2 of my conversation with Carl McColman we talk about technology’s effect on us, why we are afraid of silence, and what it can contribute to better conversations. On his podcast Encountering silence they always take a 30 second pause of...

  • 026: Encountering Silence with Carl McColman Part 1

    March 8th, 2020  |  43 mins 22 secs

    In this episode I talk to Carl McColman about technology’s effect on us, why we are afraid of silence, and what it can contribute to better conversations. This will be a two part conversation that we will finish next week. On his podcast Encountering...

  • 025: Our Better Angels with Paul Kirst

    March 1st, 2020  |  57 mins 44 secs

    In this episode I talk with Paul Kirst about his work with Better Angels to teach and promote dialogue across the red and blue divide. We also discuss civil wars both past and future and what they might teach us.
    Show Notes

    Better Angels Workshops –...

  • Episode 24: 024: Civic Engagement with Erin Payseur Oeth

    February 23rd, 2020  |  1 hr 7 mins

    In this episode I talk to Erin Payseur Oeth about how to get beyond the binary in our discussions, being co-creators of the communities where we live, and we reveal the hidden truth that… the government is us!