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The podcast where we talk about things we're not supposed to, learn how to have difficult conversations, and talk to people about what makes them different.

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  • 030: Spiral Dynamics with Steve McDonald Part 1

    April 27th, 2020  |  37 mins 48 secs

    In this two part interview I talk to futurist Steve McDonald about Spiral Dynamics, which is a model for understanding human development and consciousness. It’s a fascinating conversation that I think can help us understand ourselves and other people so much better. There’s a lot of information to digest. So sharing this in two parts will hopefully help your digestion and not give you information heartburn.

  • 029: Fake News with The News Literacy Project

    April 12th, 2020  |  35 mins

    In this episode I talk to Suzannah Gonzales of The News Literacy Project about why there's so much misinformation, what w can do about it, and how her organization can help!
    Guest Plugs

    The News Literacy Project – https://newslit.org/

  • 028: Cross-Cultural Life and Love with Sharyl Loeung

    March 29th, 2020  |  1 hr 4 mins

    Well, when I recorded this interview with my friend Sharyl we lived in a very different world. We weren’t thinking about global pandemics, social distancing, or using zoom quite as much as we are now. Many of us are sheltering in place and facing...

  • 027: Encountering Silence with Carl McColman Part 2

    March 15th, 2020  |  40 mins 42 secs

    In part 2 of my conversation with Carl McColman we talk about technology’s effect on us, why we are afraid of silence, and what it can contribute to better conversations. On his podcast Encountering silence they always take a 30 second pause of...

  • 026: Encountering Silence with Carl McColman Part 1

    March 8th, 2020  |  43 mins 22 secs

    In this episode I talk to Carl McColman about technology’s effect on us, why we are afraid of silence, and what it can contribute to better conversations. This will be a two part conversation that we will finish next week. On his podcast Encountering...

  • 025: Our Better Angels with Paul Kirst

    March 1st, 2020  |  57 mins 44 secs

    In this episode I talk with Paul Kirst about his work with Better Angels to teach and promote dialogue across the red and blue divide. We also discuss civil wars both past and future and what they might teach us.
    Show Notes

    Better Angels Workshops –...

  • Episode 24: 024: Civic Engagement with Erin Payseur Oeth

    February 23rd, 2020  |  1 hr 7 mins

    In this episode I talk to Erin Payseur Oeth about how to get beyond the binary in our discussions, being co-creators of the communities where we live, and we reveal the hidden truth that… the government is us!

  • 023: LGBTQ Identities with Rev Erica Lea Simka

    February 16th, 2020  |  1 hr 10 mins

    In this episode I talk to Pastor Erica Lea Simka about LGBTQ identities and terminology, practice introducing myself with my pronouns, get corrected more than once, and we almost have an altar call when she tells me about the antidote to call out...

  • 022: The Energy of Empathy with Michael Evans

    February 9th, 2020  |  1 hr 3 mins

    In this episode I talk to Michael Evans about empathy, what it is and how it works. We also talk about our feelings, why dads are the MOST emotional, and develop our new brand… the Baptist Buddha!

  • 021: All About Sex with Julie Jeske

    February 2nd, 2020  |  1 hr 27 secs

    Lucas talks with sex therapist Julie Jeske about how to talk about sex, why it's so difficult, and what the BDSM kink community can teach all of us about how to improve our relationships!

    Julie Jeske – http://juliejeske.com 

  • 020: Immigration with Anali Looper

    January 26th, 2020  |  53 mins 52 secs

    Lucas talks to immigration lawyer Anali Looper about why people migrate to other countries, myths about immigration, and we get down and dirty with the nitty-gritty details of the immigration system.

    American Gateways –...

  • 019: The Curiosity Hour with Tommy Estlund

    January 19th, 2020  |  55 mins 49 secs

    In this episode I talk to Tommy Estlund about his podcast the Curiosity Hour, how we know when to block or unfriend someone, and why we don’t want to be like Marty McFly.